APPENDIX 3

Sent: 11 April 2000 22:55

Subject: Thomas Trivet

Thomas Tryvet was a household knight of Richard H; more importantly, he was a banneret of the household. Evidence for his chamber office can be found only for year 1, 22 June 1377 - 21 June 1378, PRO C61/91 ml0. This document = the Gascon Rolls.

Evidence for chamber office can most reliably be found in the Wardrobe Books but their survival is patchy; all we have for RII's reign cover the years 7/8; 13/14; 16/17; 19/20; and these do NOT include Thomas; the only mention of him as a chamber knight comes from the C61 mentioned above.

**However, he is mentioned as a 'banneret' of the household in:

year 7, when he was amongst the group of knights who went to meet Anne at Calais. He was one of only 3 bannerets then mentioned. The others = William Montagu, le ritz [son of the earl of Salisbury] and John Bourser; year 9, when he received robes for the funeral of Joan of Kent - October 1385, PRO E101/401/16 m27.

He then received 4 ells of black long cloth in company with the earls of Kent, Oxford, Nottingham, Suffolk, as well as the sub-chamberlain, Simon BurIcy, and the steward Lord John Montagu. Thus the group he was included in was illustrious. The other household knights [not bannerets] received only 3~ ells of long black cloth on this same occasion. The extra cloth = either for a longer sleeve or a higher neck to denote household seniority.

Do not be misled into thinking that the chamber knights were the most senior of the household knights. For example, on the occasion of Joan's funeral, Peter Comenay, William Neville, Baldwin Bereford, Richard Abberbury, Nicholas Sarnesfeld etc. all received cloth together with all the other household knights even though they had all at some time between 1377-85 held chamber office and been mentioned in the Wardrobe Book, E101/401/2 f42.

Since you will find it difficult to consult documents, I give references to my thesis which has all this set out on pp. 301; 304; 326; 327. Also p.237, which shows that there was evidence for his household status in years 1,3, 8, 9, 1 l[also year 10 which I seem to have left out of the Appendix] and that he was dead in year 13. Thus also look at pp. 241,247, 261,269, 271 which give dates and documentary references. If you want any help with these specifically please ask.

Shelagh Mitchell, Some Aspects of the Knightly HousehoM of Richard ll, London University PhD thesis 1998 (LSE thesis).

Tryvet was also Admiral of the South and West in year 10, C66/322 m27; you can find this in the printed Calendars of Patent Rolls for October 1386. Also see, CPR 1385-89 p. 376.

I also have payment being made to him as Admiral in 1389, from the Issue Rolls [see below#].

The Admiral also had a legal aspect; see the court of the Admiralty.

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